Nic Hailey joins Democracy Day discussion on NTV

Nic Hailey on NTV
Nic Hailey joins the discussion on Democracy on NTV. Photo: Facebook/UKinKenya

With 31 days to go until the re-run of the Presidential Election and the celebrate the International Day of Democracy, the UK High Commissioner to Kenya, Nic Hailey joined fellow delegates and presenter Debarl Inea on NTV’s AM Live Leadership Forum panel discuss Democracy this morning.

Mr Hailey was joined on the panel by Ukranian Ambassador Yevhenii Tsymbaliuk, Columbian Ambassador Elizabeth Taylor and Italian Ambassador Stefano A. Dejak.

Nic Hailey on NTV
Nic Hailey with Ukranian Ambassador Yevhenii Tsymbaliuk, Columbian Ambassador Elizabeth Taylor and Italian Ambassador Stefano A. Dejak. Photo: Facebook/UKinKenya

Discussing the recent and forthcoming elections, the UK High Commissioner said that Kenya should be proud of its growing democracy, but added that 100 percent democracy cannot be achieved. He also said that he believed Kenyans should appreciate the strength of their democratic institutions like the Supreme Court.

Mr Hailey added that the Supreme Court’s ruling was a sign that Kenya has powerful institutions which are precious and should be respected.

Ambassador Dejak likened democracy and society to a body, adding that: “if it is attacked by sickness and it heals, it gets stronger.”

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On the subject of corruption, Ambassador Tsymbaliuk said that it prevents development of a democracy and that people use corrupt money to buy back power. Ambassador Taylor said that corruption leads to violence and the goal of any democracy is to strengthen the institutions fighting it.

Amassador Dejak added that no-one should get privilege at the cost of everyone else and how some of Italian government officials go to work with bikes.

The UK High Commissioner said that in a democracy there has to be a winner and a loser, but the caveat was that the victor cannot do all they link as there is a frame work.

“You can’t run a country where everyone has to agree on everything it is not possible.”

– UK High Commissioner to Kenya, Nic Hailey

Continuing on the theme of democracy, Mr Hailey highlighted participation from all citizens,  from abled to disabled, men and women is key to building a democratic society.

Ms Taylor discussed the gender balance in the Columbian Parliament, telling the host that 20 percent of their congress is women and that the country might have a female president in future.

Ambassador Tsymbaliuk added: “If we all elect women they would not bring any conflict.”

Nic Hailey on NTV
Nic Hailey on NTV

The panelists also discussed the UK’s vote to leave the European Union. Describing the EU, Ambassador Dejak said it “is a club with rules involving respect to every group in society,” and that “entering such a club is not easy.”

Mr Hailey responded by explaing: “The UK wants to stay very close to Europe. Brexit is about the EU not breaking out with our allies.”

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